Why Run With Your Dog?

Personal training for dogs. You’re kidding, right? Actually, no, we’re not. Research suggests up to 40% of our dogs are overweight, and they suffer from the same health complications that overweight people do. Veterinarians (including myself) are becoming more and more concerned about the increase in joint pain, heart disease and other obesity related illnesses in dogs. Hence, Pooch to 5k. Dogs can’t lift weights, or use the gym. If you’re going to increase their fat burning, you need to increase the intensity of their exercise. This means that a daily stroll just won’t cut it any more, it’s too laid back. The Pooch to 5k program will help you get your dog from doing nothing much to comfortably running 5km, over a period of 12 weeks.

Because you’ll be running with your dog, you’ll also get a great workout three times a week, as you train yourself to run 5km. Why not subscribe to our dog health and fitness newsletter and grab your dog, and you’re ready to go!

Apr
16

How To Start Running With Your Dog

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You’ve read this site, you’ve become enthused and motivated, and you now want to start a running program with your dog. Great stuff!

Whatever you do, don’t just head out and pound the pavement with your dog. It’s not a good idea for you, and it’s even worse for your dog. You both need to gently build up to running together.

Here are my top tips for starting running with your dog.

1. Take your dog to your vet for a check-up. You need to be sure he doesn’t have a sub clinical problem that may worsen with exercise, or that he’s carrying a bit too much weight for athletic endeavours. It’s not a bad idea for you to have a check-up too, so get in touch with your own doctor to make sure you’re okay to start a fitness program..

2. Follow a program. Don’t make things up as you go along.  I’ve personally taken four dogs through the Pooch to 5k program, and it works a treat. It is a 12 week program of running/walking, that takes you and your dog from doing nothing to being able to run 5km. If you’re finding it hard and want to repeat a week, go right ahead. Half an hour three times a week – you can fit that into your schedule!

3. Keep an eye on your dog as you run, and make sure he’s still happy to be there. Watch for signs of overheating, and make sure he doesn’t have a limp.  Keep an eye on where you’re running too. My hubby took our red dog, Cinnabar, out running one day and they weren’t far from home when the dog started limping. They both came home straight away. Turns out Cinnabar had a sliver of glass in a footpad – he’d stepped on some leftover glass from a broken bottle.

So, with these three guidelines in mind, off you go and have fun. I’d love to hear of your progress.

56 Comments

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Hi Audrey,
Love your website and continue the good work. I have a Golden Retriever who is turning 1 next week. Can I start him on your 12 week program at this stage or is it advisable to wait until he is a little bit older? I hope eventually to do his Endurance Title with him with me running.I Know he must be at least 2 years old to do this title.

looking forward to hearing from you.

Anna

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Hi Anna, thanks for the feedback. :-) Goldies can have a few genetic orthopaedic problems including hip dysplasia, so that’s worth keeping in mind. Having said that, the first few weeks of the P25k program are really easy, so he should be fine. Do keep in touch and let us know how you’re going; we should have the forum back up and running very soon.

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I have tried running with my dog but she cuts across me and trips me up….do you have any suggestions on how to get her to just run by my side.

She is a weimaraner and quite fit – so the program is more about getting me to running up to 5km….and making sure she gets the exercise she needs.

I look forward to your advice.

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Hi Nadine! Audrey’s entire male dog Guinness always dashes from side to side, and always crosses in front. He is constantly seeking new things to smell, and pee on. My dog Cinnabar occasionally crosses from side to side, and always behind me. He’s usually looking for better footing, because we run on trails.

Neither presents a big problem, because they’re consistent, and they go around us, not through us. That seems to be the main issue – you’re part of the path that the dog takes.

Do you do obedience with your dog? It may be worth trying to train your dog to deliberately give you a wide berth when it is changing sides. Clicker Training (http://www.clickandtreat.com/Clicker_Training/clicker_training.html) is an excellent tool for establishing desirable patterns of behaviour. Teach the dog a “go around” command and “reinforce” or reward the dog for exhibiting that behaviour. Don’t allow the dog to self-reward “cutting across” behaviour with whatever she was cutting across for, be it a food scrap, a sniff, saying hi to another dog.Pretty soon the dog will get the picture that cutting across doesn’t result in what she wants, but circling wide around you does.

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Hi Audrey! I just found your site and I love it!

I have a chocolate Lab (corbin) who turned 1 in January. I’d love to start taking him running with me (as he’s hyper and needs exercise) I find though that he tends to pull on the leash. I have him usually I have him usually in a harness so that when I need to pull back I can and it lifts his feet off of the ground so he’ll slow down. do you have any tips or tricks for me that can help me help corbin stop pulling so darn much?

Thanks!

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Hi Mary, I can so relate! Guinness is like that too, even though we’ve done obedience training, and theoretically he knows how to heel! I tried the harness but I just found that, instead of him pulling with his neck (as he would with a collar on), he can pull with the whole strength of his shoulders, and that’s a lot.

I’ve had the best results running with him on a head halter, but my plan is to try the Walk-Me Slip Harness that’s on our web page. I’ll let you know how it goes :-)

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Hi Mary,

Our 20 month old Lab mix refuses to run lately. My husband used to take him running early in the morning or in the evening for a 20-30 jog. But as of 4 months ago he can’t get him to go past a few blocks before he stops and doesn’t move. He has been recently checked by our vet and she said there was no reason he couldn’t run.
Sometimes I will take him out for a long walk and after a while he’ll start pulling and want to run. I’ll run with him for a few blocks but I am not the runner in the family so I can’t keep up with him most of the time. Not sure what is going on with him. Any suggestions?

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So here we go . . . I have decided that tomorrow will be the day that my mut Cletus and I begin our run! I have recently quit smoking(2 months now) and stumbled upon your website. I am so excited and a little nervous at what tomorrow will bring . . . Cletus can be quite stubborn. lol. well here goes nothing. I will be in touch. Please wish me luck!

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Good on you Meghan!! It all starts with the first few steps. What breed is Cletus? Make sure you “like”us on Facebook, and share your journey so we can support you and cheer you as you progress. Audrey.

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My story starts back in March of 2010 when I discovered the C25K program and completed the program by June of that year. I have a 70 pound mutt that was 5-1/2 years old at that time. Her name is Shadow and she is a mix of: Shepard, Shelty, Collie, Lab, Golden Retriever, Chow and who knows what else. She has a very thick under coat and very long top coat. I started letting her run with me around week 2 of the C25K program. She completed it with me and did very well. She was motivation to complete the program and if I didn’t take her with me my run was a lot more difficult. We both completed our first 5K run on 9/11/10 and she did great. We then completed another 5K on Thanksgiving of that same year. I then ended up taking a few months off to be lazy. I started back up around March of 2011 and she started back up with me. We started the C25K program again. About half way through that session she seemed to be having “back end” troubles, almost like her hips were bothering her. This is also after she chased squirrels for several hours in our back yard and was crawling underneath my cargo vans. She was crawling on her belly a lot under the vans and I think she may have hurt something at that time. I quit letting her run with me (which was very sad). Every time I would put my running shorts and shoes on she would get so excited and stand ready at the door to go with me only to find out I wouldn’t let her go. She has not run with me since but I want to get her back out there with me because I miss her so much. She is now 7 years old and I am concerned about her back end. She still seems to have problems occasionally jumping onto our couch or bed but seems toget over it and then be able to jump up again. I am wondering if she is starting to develop some kind of arthritis and if I should not take out running at all any more. I am so glad I found your site and the 12 week program. I am going to try to get her to the vet to have them check her out before I let her start running with me.
Thanks for listening and I will keep you updated on the results.

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Hi Dave, thanks for sharing your story. It’s definitely so much easier running with a dog, and more fun too. I hope all’s well with Shadow’s back end and your vet can help you get back on the road with her. Why not join our forumand keep us up to date with how you are getting on. We’d love to hear from you.

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I have 2 JRT’s that I know will love to run.

I tried them out last year, and it was a..meh…experience.
Bailey will normally run full tilt when on a bike, so I assumed he would be the same with a run, however, he started out ok, but then he just stops, and wants to go back. He will not “embrace” the run. But, when out on a walk, if I decide to run to the next street pole he’s all for it? I was getting too frustrated with him because it was ruining my run and I stopped bring him out because of it (still gets walks though)

I would love to be able to bring them on my morning runs to save time and to spend that quality time with them.

Any tips on getting Bailey to like the run??

PS. Mia, she’ll run just because I am. No fighting from her at all

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How does Bailey run when you are on the bike? How far does he run, and how fast? Does he gallop, or does he trot? I wonder if it’s easier for him to gallop with the bike or when you sprint to the next pole, compared to a trot that he may need to do for a while with a longer run. Will he work for food treats? Perhaps you could teach him to run with you just as you would teach him to walk at heel – short distances then a reward, then build up gradually.Why not join our forum and maybe some others will have suggestions that could help. You’ll find it here – http://www.poochto5k.com/forum/

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Hi,
Just wondering how old my Labrador should be before we start this program?
Thanks

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Hi Alice

I’d suggest you don’t start until your dog is at least 12 months old. This gives their joints the chance to mature and reduces the risk of injury to them. Have fun.

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So.. where’s the 12-week program?

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Lol.. Never mind. :)

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Glad you found it :-) When you’re up and running (forgive the pun!), feel free to join us in our forum at http://www.poochto5k.com/forum. Enjoy!

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My Miniature Schnauzer refuses to run on leash! Do you have any suggestions for getting her to join me? I was trying to do C25K with her, but by the end of the first 30 seconds, my arm is stretched full behind me, and I’m DRAGGING her along, all the while saying “Good girl! Come on!” She runs like a lighting bolt when she’s off leash, outrunning any dog at the park, so I don’t know what happened to her in her previous life (she’s a rescue, 2-1/2 years old now) that made her so freaked out about running on leash!

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Hi Nonny
Sometimes dogs don’t like running on leash, and I can’t tell you why. It may or may not have something to do with her previous life; it just may be that it’s not something she’s been exposed to before. Praising her while she is not exhibiting cooperative behaviour probably isn’t the best bet either – it will reinforce her lagging.
It may be prudent to throw ambition away for a while and get her to the point that she likes to run with you. If you say that after thirty seconds of running she’s lagging, try this: run fifteen seconds with her and reinforce the good behaviour. Any activity that is rewarding for the dog, the dog will tend to repeat.
You need to use her favourite thing in the world, whether it’d a game of tug, a food treat, or chasing a ball; as there is no point rewarding her with something she’s indifferent to. You may be able to get a few repetitions of the fifteen seconds before she starts the lagging again. At this point, discontinue the lesson for the day.
Because this amount of running isn’t going to be the equivalent of the first weeks’ lessons, you should be able to do this daily and not over-tire your dog. Continue your own running in the meantime, as she’ll be able to catch up when you have built up her running enthusiasm. All the while you are trying to encourage her to join you, be upbeat and enthusiastic, always finish before the dog is sick of it, and remember to deduct the calories in food treats from her evening meal

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I have a 2.5 year old Bichon he weights 14 pounds. I walk him daily. I want to do a 5K this summer and I downloaded an App for my phone called Couch-to-5k. It takes you on walk /jog intervals. I’m pretty short of time and wanted to do the 5k training while walking my dog that way we both get the run. I normally do this around 6pm so I do not have a priblem with heat. Is it ok to do so?? Any advice??

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Hi Nely, it’s a great idea to combine your exercise with your dog’s exercise. It depends on your climate – even if it’s cool enough for you, it may still be a bit warm for dogs because they don’t sweat to keep cool like we do. Try it out and if you see any signs of heat stress in your dog, then stop. http://www.poochto5k.com/heat-stress.html

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Hi, fab site, thank you for all the information. I have been speaking to people who already run with their dogs, and am keen to get started with my 8 month old beagle, Hudson. I know he is only young, and I will bear that in mind. We do occassional very long walks, as well as lots of little walks on different days. We also engage in lots of focussed play… his energy levels are very high (typical beagle!) so I love keeping him challeged mentally and physically. I’m not particularly fit myself, and love walking, so I’m looking forward to building up my stamina along with Hudson’s… HOWEVER, so you think I should wait and start this programme when he is a little older? Or go and ask my vet?
Thanks,
Kelly

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Hi Kelly, thanks for the comment. It would be best to ask your vet about their thoughts about when Hudson can start to run. We can only make general recommendations that may not be suitable for all dogs. Have fun!

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I will be sure to add you guys on Facebook! My rat terrier Carly has Week 1 Days 1&2 under her collar so far. We do day 3 tomorrow. I finished c2 5k and one hour runner several months ago, and now that the weather is nice, it is her turn!

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Look forward to catching up on Facebook, Christine, give Carly a cuddle from us. She’s doing so well!

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Hello. I have a lab/hound mix that is a little over a year old. She is about 65 lbs and very rambunctious. She’s smart and loves to play, but gets a little excessive with me (and will often bite at my hands or clothes for attention.

I realize that she needs more exercise and I’d like to train her to run. The problem I’ve had is that when I begin to run her, she will jump at me as if she wants to play.

However, I’ve discovered that if I give her a toy to hold in her mouth, she will run with me and won’t jump at me. I haven’t continued with this, however, because I’m concerned about whether or not it’s safe for her to run with something in her mouth.

Can anyone out there tell me if it’s safe for a dog to run with something in her mouth? If she can get used to running with me for short times that way, then perhaps she will be able to run with me longer without jumping and without the toy.

Thank you for your guidance.

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Hi Sharyl

I think it would be fine to run your dog with something in her mouth, as long as it is big enough so she won’t inhale it as she puffs and pants. The last thing you want is a toy stuck in the back of her throat!! Another thing you can try is playing with her in the back yard for 20 minutes or so before you run, to take the edge off her enthusiasm.

If you have an obedience class near you, that would be a good idea. That way you can train her to walk/jog beside you rather than running around and jumping on you.

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Hi! I have just started running with my goldendoodle this week. He is 3 years old and in good shape. We have done two mornings of run for 1 min, walk for 90 seconds, 30 mins a morning with a 5 min warm up and cool down period. He is doing great and loving it! My problem is my knees…is it possible that his dodging for rabbits and squirrels are pulling me around and jarring my knees to the point of runner’s knee? I’ve pain, not a lot but noticeable at my kneecaps. How can I keep him beside me and not all over the place? I want to run with him as I’m not in the safest neighborhood and he really loves to run. Thanks for any advice!

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Hi Amanda, your boy may need a little obedience training, or perhaps a head halter would stop his pulling. I like the Black Dog Infin-8 collar for Guinness because if he does start to pull, his neck is flexed downwards instead of to the side.

Another thought – how are your shoes? I find that when my shoes are worn, my legs start to hurt. Perhaps it’s time for a new pair of shoes, and if you do decide to go that route, have them fitted by a good running store – not all shoes are equal.

It may also be that your knees are a bit achy because they’re doing something they’ve never done before, and it will settle down as they get stronger.

These are just suggestions, and it might be a good idea to have a chat to a podiatrist to get a proper diagnosis. Good luck!

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hi i have a 70kg alaskan malamute who will be 3 in october.we’ve completed the first 2 sessions of the c25k programme but i’m finding it quite frustrating when he wants to stop and sniff every tree rock and blade of grass when we should be jogging.i’m using an interval timer with an alarm feature and i’m hoping that in a few sessions he’ll realise that “that noise” means we change speed!!!! is that likely to happen?? or would i be best to train alone.dont really want to do that as he needs the exercise too

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Hi Julie, one thing I’ve found I need to do is to make myself more interesting than any rock or tree or blade of grass. That means in the early stages of our running, I had to carry some treats for Guinness. I didn’t mind him sniffing during the walk breaks but I wanted him to move quicker during the runs. I think you could use treats to train your dog to run on a particular command, just as you train dogs to start walking when you say “heel”. Perhaps when it’s run time, try saying “Go” in an excited voice, then reward him when he picks up the pace. You may have to juggle treats and leash for a little while but it should help. Let us know how you get on and come and join us on Facebook :-)

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Hi everyone, just found this site as I cant get my dog to run with me!

I have a 2.5 year old samoyed and a 1.5 year old lagotto.
I use to go one runs by myself and have decided to try and bring the dogs along. The lagotto is fine at running with me.
But im having quite a bit of trouble with the samoyed. On my first run with my samoyed I thought id take it easy and go just 3km to see how she goes. it was fine initially, bit she got a bit tired and puffed out by about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way, and then had a slow jog home from then on. Now she doesn’t even walk in the direction of the park once we leave the driveway, all she does is sit! I dont think she has injured anything as she is happy to walk in the direction away from the park and run around the back yard. I fear I may have gone too hard initially and now she is scared of running in the park….

What can i do????

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Hi Jonathan

I bet you already knew that Samoyed dogs could be stubborn, didn’t you?

It looks like she has made a mental connection between a difficult first training session and the park: she doesn’t want the experience to be repeated. Firstly, I would NOT try to coax or coerce her into going for a run for a month at least, and I wouldn’t try to convince her to walk in the direction of the park, either. You’ll need to leave those things off your agenda until her resistance is forgotten. If you try to drag her along with you she’ll put up more of a fuss, and build bigger barricades to returning to running. She needs to forget that first fateful run.

Secondly, don’t assume that she is going to be as fit as your Lagotto when you try to recommence running with her. We recommend using the Pooch To 5k program to start training your dog to run, because while it might take a little longer to begin with, there should be no painful experiences for your dog that would cause her to associate discomfort with running. Do you remember getting a stitch when you were younger and less fit? That might have been her on her first outing.

When you do recommence running with her, expect lots of resistance. You might find it takes twice as many weeks to make progress as the program suggests, because she may become a bit “gun shy” of any twinges brought on by exertion. Try to make every session positive, try to finish while she’s still willing and happy, and above all, be patient with her!

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Thanks for the reply Francis.

Will definitely be taking it slowly to ease my Samoyed into it.

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Jonathan

Let us know how you get on. Best of luck!

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I’m so glad I found this site! I have been trying to train myself to run a 5k for quite some time now but I can never seem to get the motivation. I have 2 dogs (one fat lab who is getting up there and a 2 year old rescue who is very active)and I want to keep my rescue fit. I took him on a run a few weeks ago and he seemed to enjoy himself but I didn’t know how to get him in to training. I’m looking forward to starting my training with him!

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Hi Shelly! We’re glad you found us too. Rescues come with their own special needs. It has been shown that exercise helps to reduce a dogs stress levels: this should help his to feel at ease and settle in to his new environment faster. As well as that, it’s time your dog will start to see as “his” time which will help him bond with you. Keep in touch with us on facebook if that’s a medium you use, otherwise we’ll see you here!

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I have a lab shepherd mix he 5or6 years old bin running 3 to 4 years 4to 5k everyday now trying 6k is that ok for him

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Hi Rick, if your dog has been running 4-5k comfortably, then no problems with working him up to 6k. I’d suggest you increase the distance a little each week and after 2-3 weeks, he should be just fine.

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Hello Francis, I have just got my fourth collie pup passifically for running, at present I’m only doing 5k run and wish to build back up to half and full marathons. Ollie my collie is 4 months we walk 6 – 8 miles every day, he’s always way ahead of me saying come on lets run!
off the lead as we live in a forest on the river. I will start him runing properly when he is 6 months but slowly and only short distances, I don’t intend to run full marathons with him, but my previous collie’s have run 10miles with me no problems at all, and would still go on. I hope this will help other owners with their running training. Regards Peter

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Thanks for sharing your experiences, Peter. A forest on the river sounds like a delightful place to run :-)

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I am running with a group and I was asked to bring my dog if I wanted. I have a 2 (two) year old German Shepherd…. she seems to love being with me and enjoys running; however, she pulls and I have a difficult time keeping her attention on me. She will cross in front and then to the other side and at the end (3 mile,) thats when she seems to do the best. She will even give the the look like “Thank you,” that was fun, I loved it look lol. She complicated my run but she enjoyed it. what should I do so that we both enjoy it? She will also be attentive to the rest of the group.

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Hi!

I have a labrador, Emmett, who is 5 years old. In March, I decided to take up running so that Emmett and I could get some good exercise together. I started on a program called 10K runner. It slowly trains you to run a 10k. From the beginning Emmett was not a fan. It is now August and he still does not like running with me. He pulls on the leash (trying to get back home), nudges my legs, and even gets his feet under mine like he is trying to trip me! I have started taking him with me for the first mile and then taking him home and continuing my run alone. However, I really want him to run with me. It is super distracting having him constantly pulling on my arm as we run. He has no problem running around at dog park, dog beach or play dates. He just doesn’t like to run with me! Even after we get home from a run, he will run around and want to play. He gets super excited when I get dressed to go run and brings me one of my running shoes! It doesn’t make any sense. It’s like he just gets bored and doesn’t want to do it anymore. I’m super frustrated and need some help! Does anyone else have this problem with their dog?

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Hi Megan, sorry for the delayed reply. This isn’t common and the basics are to start short, make it fun and finish before Emmett gets bored, then build up distance from there. Do you have a friend with a dog who would run with you? I find that my boys enjoy running together more than on their own. Here’s a post written by Kate, one of our veterinary contributors, that may help.

http://www.poochto5k.com/dont-run-before-you-can-walk.html#more-1260

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Hi Wendy, sorry for the huge delay in response, but one of our veterinary writers has written a post for us on keeping an enthusiastic dog under control. It boils down to teaching your girl to run beside you. At the moment, it’s more rewarding for her to pull and cross, so you need to make it well worth her while to stay with you. Here’s Kate’s post – http://www.poochto5k.com/dont-run-before-you-can-walk.html#more-1260

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I have a new dog 9 months I got from the animal shelter. She is a Shih Tzu, Japanese Chin mix. After getting her I found she has many nero problems. Vet told me she had two spinal injuries one in low back and one in the neck. She also has the knee joint problem small dogs can have. He said to make sure she walks etc it will help to strengthen her. I am doing all I can but it is not near enough. I am disabled and can not walk much and can’t run. I can’t even take her for a walk. But I have a large pen for her that would be a great place for her to run and run. But I need to know how I can train her to run on command. I want her to get the rips so to speak and get the energy out of her but also to help strengthen her knees. Any help would be so appreciated.

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Joni, it’s good your taking your vet’s advice about strengthening your girl’s legs. Do they say it’s ok for her to run or just walk? If it’s just walk then it wouldn’t be a good idea to encourage her to run. But if your vet feels running is ok, then maybe tossing her food a short distance away and encouraging her to chase it would do the job? Physical therapy may help strengthen those little legs too.

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Hi!

I adopted a 1 year old Australian cattle dog/mix from a shelter a few weeks ago and I would like to start him on a running program. However, he doesn’t seem to like running a whole lot he goes pretty slow when I have tried, but doesn’t seem to be panting or anything. He is 35 lbs and at a good weight. I do live in MN and it is winter, so it could be that he doesn’t like the cold, but any ideas on motivating my dog to run with me?

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Hi there,
I have just adopted a 5year old female basenji. From X breeders and show dog (not showed for over 3 years now) she is amazing on the lead but will only trot not run….I’m assuming she’s trained not to run. Do you have any advice??
Thank you very much

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ive tried showing her I’ve got a treat in my hand to see if she’ll give me a little chase for it…. But she’s not interested, when it’s related to running! On the lead treats work when training her to sit at a road….
Thanks again Emily

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Is Georgia motivated by anything else? Perhaps a tug toy or a squeaky toy? It sounds like she’s been trained from the get go to trot and pace, and that may be take a while to resolve. Perhaps go back to basics, find what motivates her, then start small – maybe 100 metres or even less, and when she’s run that, plenty of praise and play and call it a day. Make it something she looks forward to.

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Some people don’t like running, and some dogs don’t like it, either. I did C25K with my partner and my Finnish lapphund years ago when the dog was young. I kept running when I finished and headed for 10K. My partner was happy to see the back of running. Just not enjoyable for him, whereas for me, I’m rarely happier than when I’ve been running for the last hour. My dog ran with me for a little while, but I soon got tired of towing him up the hills and coaxing him to stop sniffing the flowers. My second dog is short and heavy, and while his spirit was willing, he is a sprinter, and running for a couple of km is tough on him. He made it clear pretty quickly that he thought I was a slave driver and running with me was not fun. I have recently got a small, hunting breed known for their endurance and have pinned all my canine running pal hopes on her. I will suck it up and live with slow intervals to build her up, but I think she is my best bet yet. She is a little energiser bunny and she certainly seems to get itchy legs. She is 11 months, so counting down until I can start with her.

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Is it safe to do the C25K program (8 week) with a pup who is a border collie/Aussie mix? He is just over a year and very healthy :)

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A year old is a perfect time to start running with your dog and that mix of breeds is likely to be very athletic. Have a great time with him and we’d love to see some pics :-)

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